Legislature(2017 - 2018)SENATE FINANCE 532

01/29/2018 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:04:26 AM Start
09:05:30 AM Presentation: Department of Transportation and Public Facilities Fy19 Operating Budget
10:19:46 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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*+ SB 144 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Presentation: Department of Transportation TELECONFERENCED
and Public Facilities FY19 Operating Budget
Marc Luiken, Commissioner
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
SENATE BILL NO. 144                                                                                                           
"An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and loan                                                                    
program  expenses  of  state   government  and  for  certain                                                                    
programs;   capitalizing  funds;   amending  appropriations;                                                                    
making  supplemental  appropriations; making  appropriations                                                                    
under  art. IX,  sec. 17(c),  Constitution of  the State  of                                                                    
Alaska,  from the  constitutional budget  reserve fund;  and                                                                    
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:  DEPARTMENT  OF   TRANSPORTATION  and  PUBLIC                                                                  
FACILITIES FY19 OPERATING BUDGET                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:05:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARK LUIKEN, COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND                                                                    
PUBLIC  FACILITIES,   discussed  the   presentation  "Alaska                                                                    
Department  of Transportation  and Public  Facilities" (copy                                                                    
on file). He spoke to  slide 2, "Our DOT&PF People: Alaskans                                                                    
Serving Alaska":                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Meet some of the transportation professionals who Keep                                                                     
     Alaska Moving                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Matt Tanaka Engineer/Architect III, Statewide Public                                                                       
     Facilities                                                                                                                 
          ?Lifetime  Alaskan, grew  up in  Anchorage, raised                                                                    
          family there.                                                                                                         
          ?32  years engineering  experience, 21  years with                                                                    
          DOT&PF.                                                                                                               
          ?Professional  engineer,  two bachelor's  degrees,                                                                    
          and MS in civil engineering from Dartmouth.                                                                           
          ?Specialized in the delivery  of large and complex                                                                    
          public facilities projects.                                                                                           
          ?Enjoys the Alaskan outdoors  as a skier, cyclist,                                                                    
          fly fisher.                                                                                                           
          ?Contributes  to DOT&PF's  mission  by building  &                                                                    
          maintaining    Alaska's     infrastructure    with                                                                    
          consistent  success  at   meeting  customer  needs                                                                    
          while  finishing  on  time and  under  budget.  He                                                                    
          advances One  DOT&PF through  enthusiastic support                                                                    
          and with his expertise                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Lauren Staft Project Manager, Statewide Public                                                                             
     Facilities                                                                                                                 
          ?While  hiking the  Appalachian Trail,  decided to                                                                    
          pursue a  career in the  great outdoors  and moved                                                                    
          to Alaska in 2000.                                                                                                    
          ?Geological Engineering degree  from University of                                                                    
          Alaska, Fairbanks.                                                                                                    
          ?Has  two young  daughters and  enjoys hiking  and                                                                    
          camping.                                                                                                              
          ?10  years of  service  across  the state  working                                                                    
          with  DOT&PF Design  & Construction  and Statewide                                                                    
          Public Facilities.                                                                                                    
          ?Responsible     for    managing     construction,                                                                    
          renovation,  and  repair   of  facilities  in  the                                                                    
          Northern  Region and  is  committed to  thoughtful                                                                    
          project development to  ensure facilities meet the                                                                    
          needs of the people who use them.                                                                                     
          ?In   2016,  was   named  one   of  Construction's                                                                    
          "Deserving Dozen" for  dedication, leadership, and                                                                    
          service.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken highlighted  department employees  that                                                                    
were dedicated  to providing service  to the  department and                                                                    
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken discussed  slide  3, "Transportation  &                                                                    
Public Facilities  - Keep Alaska Moving  through service and                                                                    
infrastructure":                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The Department of Transportation & Public Facilities                                                                       
     is responsible for providing these core services:                                                                          
          ?Preserve Alaska's Transportation Infrastructure                                                                      
          ?Operate Alaska's Transportation Infrastructure                                                                       
          ?Modernize Alaska's Transportation Infrastructure                                                                     
          ?Provide Transportation Services                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Sources:                                                                                                                   
     Department Home: dot.alaska.gov                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Strategic Plan:                                                                                                            
     dot.alaska.gov/comm/strategic_plan.shtml                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Constitutional Authority:                                                                                                  
     dot.alaska.gov/comm/legislative/docs/Fact-Sheet.pdf                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     FY2019 Proposed Budget:                                                                                                    
     www.omb.alaska.gov/html/budget-report/fy2019-                                                                              
     budget/proposed.html                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken listed the  Alaska Marine Highway System                                                                    
(AMHS) and  the Alaska  International Airport System  as two                                                                    
examples  of infrastructure  operated by  the Department  of                                                                    
Transportation  and Public  Facilities  (DOT). He  explained                                                                    
that   results-based  alignment   was  a   service  delivery                                                                    
framework  through which  DOT measured  the contribution  of                                                                    
the services  delivered in support  of its mission.  He drew                                                                    
attention to weblinks  to source documents at  the bottom of                                                                    
slide 2.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
AMANDA  HOLLAND, ACTING  DEPUTY COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT OF                                                                    
TRANSPORTATION  AND PUBLIC  FACILITIES, referenced  slide 4,                                                                    
"Department of Transportation and  Public Facilities - Share                                                                    
of Total Agency  Operations," which showed a  bar graph that                                                                    
showed  a ten-year  lookback of  DOT's Unrestricted  General                                                                    
Fund (UGF)  and General Fund  (GF) spending. She  noted that                                                                    
the  subsequent   four  slides  showed  the   budget  slides                                                                    
prepared by  the Division of Legislative  Finance (LFD). She                                                                    
shared  that  the  governor's proposed  FY  19  budget,  UGF                                                                    
equaled $177.9  million, and DGF equaled  $97.9 million. The                                                                    
numbers were close to FY 09 budget levels.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Holland   turned   to    slide   5,   "Department   of                                                                    
Transportation and  Public Facilities  - Line  Items," which                                                                    
showed a  bar graph  depicting all funds  by line  item. She                                                                    
pointed out that commodities and  travel had decreased below                                                                    
FY  09 level,  while the  services line  had increased.  She                                                                    
explained that  the increase was  primarily due  to personal                                                                    
services  being transferred  to  the services  line to  fund                                                                    
shared   services  reimbursable   services  agreement.   The                                                                    
funding was  for Shared  Services of  Alaska, the  Office of                                                                    
Internet   Technology,  and   the  Division   of  Facilities                                                                    
Services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:09:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland reviewed slide  6, "Department of Transportation                                                                    
and  Public Facilities  - Appropriations  (GF Only),"  which                                                                    
showed  a  line  graph.  The graph  showed  GF  only,  which                                                                    
included  UGF and  Designated  General  Fund (DGF)  sources.                                                                    
Highways, aviation, and facilities; and  the AMHS made up 94                                                                    
percent  of  the  department GF  operating  budget.  In  the                                                                    
governor's proposed  FY 19 budget,  all of  the department's                                                                    
GF appropriations were below FY 09 levels.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked why the  Alaska Marine Highway System                                                                    
(AMHS)  reflected  a  smaller reduction  than  that  of  the                                                                    
highway and aviation portion of the DOT budget.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland explained that during  the timespan on the chart                                                                    
on slide  6; there  had been  a greater  decrease in  GF for                                                                    
highways, aviation and facilities as opposed to AMHS.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon asked if the  GF funding for the AMHS was                                                                    
for personnel or for facilities.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland explained  that the majority of the  GF paid for                                                                    
personal  services,  but  also   paid  for  contractual  and                                                                    
services lines.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon asked  if the  AMHS fares  paid for  the                                                                    
facilities where  ferries docked. She discussed  how DGF was                                                                    
spent in other agencies.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:12:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MATT  MCLAREN,  CONTROLLER,  ALASKA MARINE  HIGHWAY  SYSTEM,                                                                    
stated that most  of the AMHS generated in  revenue was used                                                                    
for personal services for  shore-side and vessel operations.                                                                    
He stated that vessel  operations and personal services were                                                                    
split. About  two-thirds vessel operation  personal services                                                                    
for  crew was  UGF, and  the  other third  was through  AMHS                                                                    
generated revenues. He thought  90 percent of the shore-side                                                                    
terminal staff,  central office staff  wages were  paid with                                                                    
AMHS generated  revenues. The fuel  for AMHS was  split with                                                                    
UGF  and DGF.  He  referenced he  previous  two years'  fuel                                                                    
increase and stated  that all fuel during the  two years was                                                                    
paid with UGF.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon asked if there  was a reason that DOT had                                                                    
chosen  the   funding  sources   instead  of   applying  all                                                                    
passenger revenues  to a  single line  item. She  thought it                                                                    
was difficult  to follow  the accounting,  particularly when                                                                    
there was significant federal funding in play.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. McLaren  understood that  AMHS tried to  pay as  much as                                                                    
possible with  designated funds that  were generated  by the                                                                    
system. He  explained that there  were not  enough generated                                                                    
funds  to  cover all  personal  services.  There was  enough                                                                    
funding to cover shoreside costs,  and the approximately $20                                                                    
million  in DGF  was  used to  cover  personal services.  He                                                                    
detailed that  vessel crew wages  ran over $80  million, and                                                                    
the revenue  generated by AMHS  was not sufficient  to cover                                                                    
the amount.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  explained  that  the  legislature  paid                                                                    
closer  attention  to  GF dollars  and  wondered  if  enough                                                                    
attention was  being paid to  the costs generated  by short-                                                                    
side facilities of AMHS.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:16:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked what percentage  of the population of                                                                    
Alaska was being served by AMHS.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  McLaren   shared  that  AMHS  had   annual  traffic  of                                                                    
approximately  60  percent  by   Alaska  residents,  and  40                                                                    
percent non-residents.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  clarified his  question was  regarding the                                                                    
percentage of Alaskans that used the system.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken  thought it  was difficult to  provide a                                                                    
precise number,  as the  focus of the  ferry was  on coastal                                                                    
Alaska.  He stated  that  the system  was  used by  Interior                                                                    
Alaska residents as well.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman asked  if the  total was  higher or  lower                                                                    
than 30 percent.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  McLaren stated  that  the system  served  more than  30                                                                    
percent of Alaskans. He referenced  an economic study by the                                                                    
McDowell  Group,  which  had   focused  on  the  portion  of                                                                    
Alaskans  served by  the system.  The study  found that  the                                                                    
majority of  tourist dollars went  toward businesses  in the                                                                    
Interior, Anchorage, and Fairbanks.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken  considered that  the system  served all                                                                    
Alaskans, since it was available  to all Alaskans, much like                                                                    
road and airport systems.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman wondered  how many  people from  Quinhagak                                                                    
were served by the system.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof  thought it would be useful  to have total                                                                    
ridership  data over  time that  included demographics.  She                                                                    
discussed  her personal  experience  riding between  Skagway                                                                    
and  Haines  on  a  private ferry  with  Allen  Marine.  She                                                                    
wondered  if  there  was  consideration  and  discussion  of                                                                    
further  privatization   of  the  shorter  ferry   route  to                                                                    
alleviate some of the operating burden of AMHS.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken relayed that  there had been discussions                                                                    
on  the matter  in the  past, and  private service  had been                                                                    
utilized when  vessels were  unable to  fill part  of AMHS's                                                                    
marine route.  He elaborated that the  marine union contract                                                                    
had a  clause pertaining to contracting  services, therefore                                                                    
discussion  was needed  in the  event  of utilizing  private                                                                    
service.  He stated  that AMHS  was continually  negotiating                                                                    
the concept with the marine  unions, and it was necessary to                                                                    
work through the union process.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  thought he had heard  the same explanation                                                                    
ten years previously.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:20:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Bishop  referenced   a   report  by   Southeast                                                                    
Conference (copy  not on  file). He  wondered how  much more                                                                    
revenue AMHS might  generate if it was  forward-funded for a                                                                    
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken  clarified that  the department  was not                                                                    
asking for  forward-funding, but  rather stable  funding. He                                                                    
read from AS 19.65.60, which  referenced the creation of the                                                                    
AMHS Fund. The statute  mentioned funds that were consistent                                                                    
from year to year to  provide stable services to the public.                                                                    
He  considered  the  appropriations from  the  previous  few                                                                    
years, and thought it was  inconsistent. He posited that the                                                                    
system would be  more confident in its business  plan if had                                                                    
stable  reliable  funding.  Consistent  and  stable  funding                                                                    
would  allow  AMHS  to publish  a  consistent  and  reliable                                                                    
schedule, which would increase marketing and ridership.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken  continued his remarks.  He acknowledged                                                                    
that  there  were many  variables  at  work when  trying  to                                                                    
estimate  the  revenue  impact of  AMHS.  He  conservatively                                                                    
estimated that with a stable  funding source, AMHS could see                                                                    
an increase of 48 percent  in ridership and vehicle traffic,                                                                    
which  would  equate  to  $2  million  to  $3.5  million  in                                                                    
additional  revenue.  He   referenced  the  previous  year's                                                                    
approximate 250,000 passengers. Over  the previous 30 years,                                                                    
the average  passenger total was 300,000.  Even returning to                                                                    
the  earlier average  would signify  a  revenue increase  of                                                                    
$1.25 million.  He was confident  the system could  bring in                                                                    
additional revenue if given a stable budget.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stevens commented  on  the importance  of AMHS.  He                                                                    
thought  it  was  a lifeline  for  Southeast  and  Southwest                                                                    
Alaska. He likened the marine  highway to the other highways                                                                    
in the state.  He discussed the effects  of reduced funding.                                                                    
He  agreed  with the  commissioner  regarding  the need  for                                                                    
stable funding.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:24:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon appreciated  the commissioner's statement                                                                    
about a potential  increase in revenue, but  she wondered at                                                                    
the cost to the  state. She referenced anecdotal information                                                                    
about travelers  waiting for the ferry  in British Columbia.                                                                    
She respected communities that  received benefits from AMHS.                                                                    
She wondered  how much it  would cost the state  to increase                                                                    
the revenue to AMHS.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken  reiterated that the department  was not                                                                    
necessarily asking  for additional funds, but  rather stable                                                                    
funds. Stable funds  would allow for the system,  as well as                                                                    
businesses and travelers, to make plans.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman reminded  that the  state was  at a  cross                                                                    
roads. He wondered  what other state had  entities that were                                                                    
revenue-dependent    upon   one-time    funds   that    were                                                                    
evaporating.  He   thought  it   was  necessary   for  every                                                                    
department to examine its activities.  He discussed the need                                                                    
for additional  cuts. He referenced the  business community,                                                                    
and thought it also wanted stable funding.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:28:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  stated she  did not  have an  issue with                                                                    
the value of the system.  She agreed with Co-Chair Hoffman's                                                                    
comments about  the state's  fiscal transition,  and thought                                                                    
it  was  necessary to  right-size  state  services. She  had                                                                    
utilized the system the previous  year and experienced great                                                                    
service  from  the  crew.  She  had  observed  freight  from                                                                    
private carriers waiting to be  loaded on the ferry. She was                                                                    
concerned  about subsidizing  freight  movement for  private                                                                    
businesses.  She  referenced  Senator  von  Imhof's  remarks                                                                    
pertaining   to  privatization.   She   thought  there   was                                                                    
approximately $5 million generated in freight costs.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:31:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche  thought the value  of AMHS  was undeniable                                                                    
and stated  that the  system was  something he  would always                                                                    
support. He  discussed recent cuts  to DOT and  thought that                                                                    
there had  been drops  to ridership on  the system  over the                                                                    
previous 20 years. He discussed  fuel prices, and thought in                                                                    
lower fuel price years, ridership  on the ferry went down as                                                                    
more people  drove. He thought  there was forward  motion on                                                                    
privatization that  might make certain runs  more efficient.                                                                    
He  thought that  most coastal  communities  also had  state                                                                    
highways.  He thought  there  were  partnerships that  could                                                                    
bring the  cost of AMHS down.  He discussed the work  of the                                                                    
Southeast Conference.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:34:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator von  Imhof referenced the  remarks of  Chief Justice                                                                    
Craig  Stowers, who  spoke about  acknowledging the  revenue                                                                    
challenges in the state. The  chief justice had spoken about                                                                    
how his  department had  made changes to  adjust to  the new                                                                    
fiscal  climate. She  hoped that  Commissioner Luiken  would                                                                    
also  discuss how  DOT  acknowledged  the budget  challenges                                                                    
facing the  state, and what  specific things it had  done to                                                                    
address the challenge.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stevens  thought there was  an assumption  that AMHS                                                                    
impacted   only  coastal   communities.  He   asserted  that                                                                    
Anchorage was  affected by the marine  highway. He discussed                                                                    
the City of  Cordova, which did not have  a connecting road.                                                                    
He  informed   that  all  building  materials   and  grocery                                                                    
materials came  from Anchorage  to Cordova  and had  a major                                                                    
impact  on   the  Anchorage  economy.  He   thought  it  was                                                                    
important to recognize that AMHS affected the whole state.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Bishop   discussed   freight  and   asked   the                                                                    
commissioner to  provide information  on rates for  AMHS. He                                                                    
wanted to compare to barge freight rates.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:37:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken discussed  slide  8, "Transportation  &                                                                    
Public Facilities Results Based Alignment: Core Services":                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     PRESERVE ALASKA'S TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE                                                                            
     Projects and activities that extend the life of                                                                            
     existing infrastructure                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     OPERATE ALASKA'S TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE                                                                             
     Support safe and efficient movement on existing                                                                            
     infrastructure                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     MODERNIZE ALASKA'S TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE                                                                           
     Improve infrastructure to meet current standards and                                                                       
     capacity                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES                                                                                            
     Services that move people and goods on existing                                                                            
     infrastructure                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken reiterated  that results-based alignment                                                                    
was  the  service  delivery   framework  through  which  the                                                                    
department  measured the  contribution  of  the services  it                                                                    
delivered  to support  its mission.  The four  core services                                                                    
listed on  the slide  linked the work  of the  department to                                                                    
its statutory and regulatory requirements.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken  spoke to slide  9, "Budget  Breakout by                                                                    
Core Service - $586,592.5," which  showed a pie chart of the                                                                    
FY 18  management plan.  The slide  showed the  breakdown of                                                                    
core  services of  the department's  FY  18 management  plan                                                                    
budget and  included all  fund sources.  He stated  that DOT                                                                    
had  performance data  for nearly  every  direct service  it                                                                    
performed,  and  the  data  was  used  to  make  data-driven                                                                    
decisions. He stated  that he would be happy  to provide the                                                                    
committee  with further  details  on  what efficiencies  had                                                                    
been gained and  how the department had  absorbed the budget                                                                    
cuts it experienced over the previous four years.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:39:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  von Imhof  referenced slide  7 and  calculated that                                                                    
Administration and  Support had  gone up  20 percent  in the                                                                    
previous 10 years, with an 8 percent increase since 2015.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland  explained that there  were a number  of reasons                                                                    
for  the  increase.  The  south  coast  regional  group  had                                                                    
consolidated its  administrative support, and the  costs had                                                                    
been consolidated  in one  area. She  detailed the  areas in                                                                    
which  funds  had  been  transferred  in  for  reduction  of                                                                    
vacancy  factor,  and positions  to  help  process time  and                                                                    
equipment work.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof  asked if the funds were  UGF. She thought                                                                    
generally consolidations were associated  with a decrease in                                                                    
costs. She asked for greater detail.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Holland  explained  that  the  observable  increase  in                                                                    
administration  and support  was not  reflecting an  overall                                                                    
increase in  the budget in  the department. Some  costs from                                                                    
other  budget  components had  been  moved  to the  results-                                                                    
delivery unit. The  increase was a transfer of  funds as the                                                                    
department was organized to become more efficient.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked if there  would be a levelling off of                                                                    
the costs for administration and support in the future.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Holland answered  in the  affirmative. She  shared that                                                                    
DOT was  in the  midst of  working towards  shared services,                                                                    
which had not been fully implemented.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:42:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon asked if the  department could comment on                                                                    
new technology that  was deployed. She asked  for details on                                                                    
effectiveness and efficiency.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Luiken  stated   that   the  department   was                                                                    
deploying  a  program  called   Agile  Assets,  which  would                                                                    
provide  greater   automation  in  the   department's  asset                                                                    
management process.  Additionally, the department had  a new                                                                    
program   to   help   with  procurement   and   construction                                                                    
administration.  None of  the systems  had been  implemented                                                                    
but would be in the  following spring. He estimated that the                                                                    
costs would decrease as more  efficiencies were realized. He                                                                    
offered to provide more detail at a later time.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon relayed  that it  came to  her attention                                                                    
during a special session that  there was something occurring                                                                    
with   federal    reimbursement   that   was    related   to                                                                    
implementation  of  Integrated Resource  Information  System                                                                    
(IRIS). She wondered whether the issue had been worked out.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Holland stated  that the  department  had been  working                                                                    
closely with  Department of Administration (DOA)  on a joint                                                                    
workgroup to work through issues  to use the new system more                                                                    
effectively.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  asked if the  system had  been certified                                                                    
with the federal government.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland  stated that the Federal  Highway Administration                                                                    
(FHWA) performed a performance  review before the department                                                                    
could  use   IRIS  to  perform  federal   transactions.  The                                                                    
department continued  to meet with  FHWA on a  regular basis                                                                    
to ensure the system was meeting the requirements.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:46:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon asked if the department was certified.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland  stated the FHWA  had approved  the department's                                                                    
use of IRIS and had not requested any corrective action.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon discussed  the aforementioned  Southeast                                                                    
Conference report  and did not see  expanded conversation in                                                                    
reference    to    Senator    Micciche's    remarks    about                                                                    
privatization.  She  asked  if   the  commissioner  had  any                                                                    
comments about the report and the recommendations wherein.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken   stated  that  he  had   confined  his                                                                    
presentation to  an overview  of the  department's operating                                                                    
budget.  He was  happy to  engage the  committee at  a later                                                                    
time  on  the  specifics   of  the  recommendations  by  the                                                                    
Southeast  Conference.  He  acknowledged that  most  of  the                                                                    
topics were recommendations rather than actionable items.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman asked  if  Commissioner Luiken  envisioned                                                                    
the  administration  introducing legislation  pertaining  to                                                                    
privatization.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken thought  the legislation  was still  in                                                                    
question.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken  discussed slide  10,  "Department-wide                                                                    
performance data,"  which showed  a pie  chart that  gave an                                                                    
example  of  the  department's   FY  18  budget  information                                                                    
combined  with performance  data. The  left side  showed the                                                                    
budget  breakdown for  the direct  service of  snow and  ice                                                                    
management. There  was a  breakdown of  fund category  and a                                                                    
pie  chart denoting  region.  The right  side  of the  slide                                                                    
showed performance  data related to the  service. He pointed                                                                    
out that the department had  met its snow and ice management                                                                    
target 98 percent of the time  in FY 17. The target referred                                                                    
to  the  priority road  system  and  the time  necessary  to                                                                    
return  a road  to good  conditions after  a winter  weather                                                                    
event. The department had performance  data for nearly every                                                                    
direct service  of the department. He  expressed willingness                                                                    
to meet with members individually to share the details.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken referenced  slide 11, "Accomplishments,"                                                                    
which showed  a line graph. He  highlighted DOT's commitment                                                                    
to  excellence  in an  example  of  the State  of  Minnesota                                                                    
adoption  of  the  department's   ice  breaker  design.  The                                                                    
department, along with the Department  of Public Safety, was                                                                    
the  recipient of  the Roadway  Safety  Foundation Award  in                                                                    
November 2017. He referenced a  reduction of serious crashes                                                                    
in the state's safety corridors.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:50:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken turned to slide 12, "Safety & Health":                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Safety                                                                                                                     
      Safety moments at the start of each meeting                                                                               
      Raised awareness in work zones                                                                                            
     ?Decrease Workers' Compensation claims                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Health                                                                                                                     
     ?Monthly   health   newsletter    posted   in   various                                                                    
     facilities                                                                                                                 
     ?Regularly  host  Aetna/Wellness program  functions  at                                                                    
     facilities                                                                                                                 
     ?Walks during breaks and lunch                                                                                             
     ?Commissioner's Corner                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Environment                                                                                                                
     ?Goal:  achieve  independent  state of  DuPont  Bradley                                                                    
     Curve                                                                                                                      
     ?Increase employee awareness of health and safety                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken   reminded  that  safety  was   at  the                                                                    
forefront of all the department's  activities. Safety of the                                                                    
travelling public was a top  priority. Employee health was a                                                                    
focus   of  the   department.   The  department's   budgeted                                                                    
healthcare  costs   had  decreased  by   approximately  $2.5                                                                    
million  in  the  previous six  years,  and  healthcare  had                                                                    
maintained  steady as  8 and  8.5 percent  of the  operating                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:51:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken reviewed slide 13, "Challenges":                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Transition facilities  management and  maintenance from                                                                    
     participating   departments   to    the   Division   of                                                                    
     Facilities Services.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Keeping   existing   road   and  airport   systems   in                                                                    
     serviceable   condition,   enabling   safe,   efficient                                                                    
     travel,     despite     budget    reductions,     aging                                                                    
     infrastructure and the impacts of weather.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Provide uninterrupted ferry service and meet as many                                                                       
     customers' needs as possible.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken  discussed   details  of  transitioning                                                                    
facilities  management. He  discussed challenges  of keeping                                                                    
existing road and airport  systems in serviceable condition.                                                                    
He mentioned  increasing costs  of equipment  and materials,                                                                    
and increased  costs for maintenance  of rural  airports. He                                                                    
discussed  providing ferry  service and  stated that  due to                                                                    
the  increasing  age of  the  fleet,  it was  becoming  more                                                                    
difficult  to  provide  on-time and  on-budget  delivery  of                                                                    
ships  during   yearly  shipyard   overhauls.  Additionally,                                                                    
compliance  with  new   environmental  regulations  required                                                                    
additional staff and resources.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Bishop  apologized  to  Co-Chair  MacKinnon  and                                                                    
referenced an uncertain sailing schedule.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:54:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland looked at slide  14, "FY2019 Governor's Proposed                                                                    
Operating Budget: $584,816.5":                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     FY2019 Governor's Proposed                                                                                                 
     UGF $177,931.5 (30.43%)                                                                                                    
     DGF $97,972.1 (16.75%)                                                                                                     
     Other $306,846.7 (52.47%)                                                                                                  
     Federal $2,066.2 (.35%)                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     FY2018 Management Plan                                                                                                     
     $586,592.5                                                                                                                 
     UGF $135,191.8 (23.05%)                                                                                                    
     DGF $142,201.3 (24.24%)                                                                                                    
     Other $307,133.2 (52.36%)                                                                                                  
     Federal $2,066.2 (.35%)                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     UGF                                                                                                                        
     General Fund Receipts                                                                                                      
     $177,931.5                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     DGF                                                                                                                        
     Marine Highway System Fund $51,470.9                                                                                       
     Motor Fuel Tax Receipts $36,200.1                                                                                          
     Vehicle Rental Tax Receipts $5,497.3                                                                                       
     General Fund/Program Receipts $4,803.8                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     OTHER                                                                                                                      
     Capital Improvement Project Receipts $161,668.8                                                                            
     International Airport Revenue Fund $90,272.6                                                                               
     Highway/Equipment Working Capital Fund $34,583.3                                                                           
     Rural Airport Receipts $8,481.9                                                                                            
     Aviation Fuel Tax Revenue $4,622.1                                                                                         
     Inter-agency Receipts $3,955.4                                                                                             
     Whittier Tunnel Toll Receipts $1,929.4                                                                                     
     Statutory Designated Program Receipts $535.1                                                                               
     Uniform Commercial Registration Receipts $513.5                                                                            
     Rural Airport Inter-agency Receipts $256.1                                                                                 
    In-state Pipeline Fund Inter-agency Receipts $28.5                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Holland  informed that  the  two  graphs on  the  slide                                                                    
compared the  FY 18 management  plan breakdown to the  FY 19                                                                    
proposed   breakdown.  The   largest  change   was  in   the                                                                    
distribution of fund  categories between UGF and  DGF. In FY                                                                    
18,  the AMHS  Fund was  given a  one-time increment  of $40                                                                    
million. The FY 19  governor's proposed budget reflected the                                                                    
decrease in the  fund (DGF), and the  subsequent increase in                                                                    
UGF  necessary to  allow the  system to  provide a  level of                                                                    
service that was comparable to  FY 18 and in accordance with                                                                    
its 2018 summer schedule.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland looked at slide  15, "FY2019 Governor's Proposed                                                                    
Operating Budget Changes":                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Increases                                                                                                                  
     International  Airport  System  increase for  two  24/7                                                                    
     building   maintenance   positions,   law   enforcement                                                                    
     training funding and  safety operational cost increases                                                                    
     (Intl Airport Revenue Fund Receipts) $457.0                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Decreases                                                                                                                  
     Supply  resource  reduction   and  accounting  resource                                                                    
     reallocation (UGF) ($90.5)                                                                                                 
     Eliminate Harbor Program Development allocation (UGF)                                                                      
     ($320.1)                                                                                                                   
     Eliminate  state  funded  minor  structure  inspections                                                                    
     (UGF) ($35.0)                                                                                                              
     Reduce overtime-winter and summer (UGF) ($175.0)                                                                           
     Delete  unrealizable receipt  authority-AK LNG  ($1.3);                                                                    
     In-state   Pipeline   Funding  ($672.9);   Inter-agency                                                                    
     receipts ($155.7)($829.9)                                                                                                  
     Total                                                                                                                      
     ($1,450.5)                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     AMHS Service Changes                                                                                                       
     Service  level  increase of  8.2  weeks  from 337.7  to                                                                    
     345.9 (UGF $4,364.5; DGF ($1,236.4))                                                                                       
     $3,128.1                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Salary Adjustments                                                                                                         
     Salary and  health insurance increases (UGF  $32.4; DGF                                                                    
     $59.4; Other $396.6) $488.4                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     One-Time Items                                                                                                             
     Reverse  one-time   funding  from  the   Alaska  Marine                                                                    
     Highway System Fund ($4,000.0)                                                                                             
     Reverse  Anchorage  International  Airport  feasibility                                                                    
     study  funding   for  maintenance  repair   &  overhaul                                                                    
     facility ($400.0)                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Fund Source Swaps                                                                                                          
     Replace Marine  Highway System Funds  with Unrestricted                                                                    
     General  Funds   to  maintain  marine   highway  system                                                                    
     service $40,000.0                                                                                                          
     Replace Unrestricted General  Funds with Marine Highway                                                                    
     System  Funds  due  to  elimination  of  winter  driver                                                                    
     discount program $300.0                                                                                                    
     Replace  Capital  Improvement   Project  Receipts  with                                                                    
     Rural  Airport   Receipts  to  fund   required  Federal                                                                    
     Aviation Administration planning costs $1,030.0                                                                            
     Replace Unrestricted General Funds  with Motor Fuel Tax                                                                    
     Receipts based on anticipated collections $647.8                                                                           
     Replace   Unrestricted  General   Funds  with   Capital                                                                    
     Improvement Project Receipts  to maintain environmental                                                                    
     positions $88.0                                                                                                            
     Total                                                                                                                      
     $42,065.8                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Organizational Changes                                                                                                     
     Establishment  of the  Division of  Facilities Services                                                                    
     (shared services initiative)                                                                                               
     Agency Transfers                                                                                                           
     Transfer  PCNs from  Department  of Administration  and                                                                    
     Education  for  Facilities Shared  Services  Initiative                                                                    
     (25 PFT; 3 PPT)                                                                                                            
     Transfer  Information Technology  (IT) Commodity  staff                                                                    
     to the Department of  Administration/Division of IT for                                                                    
     program alignment (10 PFT)                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Position Count Changes                                                                                                     
     Delete Digital Mapping Project Manager (1 PFT)                                                                             
     Delete Harbor Program Support (1 PFT)                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  remarked that when the  state was facing                                                                    
a  $2.5  billion revenue  shortfall,  the  ferry system  was                                                                    
increasing  ferry  runs. She  asked  if  DOT was  increasing                                                                    
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland  stated that  there was  an overall  decrease in                                                                    
the FY  19 budget for AMHS,  but the department was  able to                                                                    
have an increase  in weeks of operating  services because of                                                                    
the mix of  vessels that were being run.  The combination of                                                                    
running vessels changed the operating costs.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  referenced a conversation  with Co-Chair                                                                    
Hoffman  pertaining to  clarity  in the  budget. She  looked                                                                    
forward to  examining the numbers more  closely, and thought                                                                    
it  appeared as  though AMHS  had increased  services at  an                                                                    
increased cost.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:58:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  von Imhof  saw  that the  slide  showed a  proposed                                                                    
replacement of  UGF with  Motor Fuel  Tax receipts  based on                                                                    
anticipated collection. She thought  the Motor Fuels Tax had                                                                    
not passed through both bodies of the legislature.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland  explained that the  amount listed on  the slide                                                                    
was  the  projected  increase  in Motor  Fuel  Tax  for  the                                                                    
existing tax amount.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  asked if  the  increase  was because  the                                                                    
people in Alaska were using more fuel.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland did not have an  explanation as to why there was                                                                    
an increase.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  von   Imhof  mused   about  the   increased  carbon                                                                    
footprint  required  to  fund the  ferries.  She  wanted  to                                                                    
discuss asset  valuation. She thought  that it  was possible                                                                    
for  DOT  to  sell  some older  assets  and  thereby  reduce                                                                    
deferred  maintenance expenditures.  She  wondered if  there                                                                    
had been an analysis of the idea.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken  mentioned that there was  an initiative                                                                    
to consolidate facilities services  for all departments, and                                                                    
consideration  of   selling  properties  was  part   of  the                                                                    
process. He summarized  that the department that  was in the                                                                    
process of doing a facilities  inventory of owned and leased                                                                    
facilities in order  to make better decisions  about the use                                                                    
of the facilities.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof  hoped that the process  would be finished                                                                    
in  the next  few months  and hoped  there would  be a  grid                                                                    
produced  with  line  items  per  facility,  as  well  as  a                                                                    
decision matrix.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:01:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stevens  asked for  an  explanation  of the  harbor                                                                    
program development reductions.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland  stated that DOT had  approximately $320,000 UGF                                                                    
in  its harbor  program  development  budget component.  The                                                                    
department  proposed to  eliminate  the funds  and move  the                                                                    
functions  across the  department  to be  absorbed in  other                                                                    
areas.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stevens  asked  about  the purpose  of  the  Harbor                                                                    
Development Fund.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland  stated that the Harbor  Development Program was                                                                    
designed  to   assist  municipalities  or   communities  get                                                                    
ownership  of its  harbors. The  cut would  mean that  there                                                                    
would  not  be  a  large   number  of  new  harbor  projects                                                                    
happening over  the next several  years, and  the department                                                                    
would not  be able  to provide the  same level  of technical                                                                    
support for improvement of harbors.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stevens  was concerned  about  the  impacts of  the                                                                    
budget  decrease. He  thought most  Alaskan communities  had                                                                    
taken over ownership of harbors.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken  did not  have  a  specific answer  but                                                                    
agreed to  provide more detail  at a later time.  He pointed                                                                    
out that  the department had  two marine engineers  that had                                                                    
retired.  In the  engineer's absence,  many communities  had                                                                    
hired private contractors or consultants to fill the void.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  discussed ownership  or lease  of assets                                                                    
and considered utilization of ferry terminals.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken believed  there  was one  or two  ferry                                                                    
terminals in Southeast that were  built at a time when there                                                                    
was a  different plan in  place. The department  was working                                                                    
with FHWA to take the terminals off the books.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon wondered  why  the state  built a  ferry                                                                    
dock that was not being utilized.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken stated that  terminals had been built at                                                                    
a time when  the department thought there would  be a short-                                                                    
route  ferry   system.  The  department  had   serviced  the                                                                    
terminals in the  past and had discovered that  there was no                                                                    
longer demand at the location.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  asked if  there were  staffing positions                                                                    
that were allocated for the terminals.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Luiken  stated   that   the  department   was                                                                    
responsible for  maintaining the  terminals in  some working                                                                    
condition, but that they were no longer staffed.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  wondered if the two  terminals in question                                                                    
could be  considered for Senator von  Imhof's proposed asset                                                                    
reduction plan to reduce maintenance costs.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:06:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon recalled  an issue  from a  subcommittee                                                                    
discussion pertaining  to reliance  on federal  dollars. She                                                                    
guessed the  commissioner was  negotiating with  the federal                                                                    
government so as to not be  required to pay back the federal                                                                    
funds.  She  asked  for  a  follow-up  with  the  department                                                                    
regarding the cost to keep  the defunct terminals in working                                                                    
order,  as well  as when  the related  discussions with  the                                                                    
federal government were concluded.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland continued discussion  slide 15 and addressed the                                                                    
depiction of  organizational change. The largest  change for                                                                    
the  department in  the year  was the  establishment of  the                                                                    
Division  of   Facilities  Services,  which  was   a  shared                                                                    
services  initiative.   There  were  some   positions  being                                                                    
transferred from  DOA and Department of  Education and Early                                                                    
Development  for the  initiative.  Conversely,  there was  a                                                                    
transfer  of  DOT  positions  to   DOA  for  the  Office  of                                                                    
Information Technology shared services initiative.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche  referenced a  decrement from  the previous                                                                    
year listed  on the slide and  wondered why there was  not a                                                                    
number  reflecting  a  decrease   for  the  shared  services                                                                    
initiative.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland stated that the  costs for personal services for                                                                    
the ten IT positions were moved  to the services line of the                                                                    
budget and would  remain with DOT. The  department would pay                                                                    
DOA  through  a  reimbursable  services  agreement  for  the                                                                    
services from the positions.  For Facilities Services shared                                                                    
services,  the  positions  would  be paid  for  by  DOA  and                                                                    
Department  of Education  and  Early  Development through  a                                                                    
reimbursable  services  agreement.  Budget  funds  were  not                                                                    
transferred, but the positions were.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche  asked if the  efficiency project  would by                                                                    
definition have a reduction in head-count.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland affirmed  that the shared services  model was to                                                                    
be faster, better,  and cheaper. She continued  that DOT was                                                                    
standing  up the  Division of  Facilities  Services. As  the                                                                    
division began  to perform and provide  shared services, the                                                                    
department expected decreased budgets.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:10:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman observed  salary adjustments  of a  little                                                                    
under $500 thousand, and  asked about contract negotiations,                                                                    
since labor was such large part of the department's budget.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Holland  relayed   that  DOT  was  in   the  middle  of                                                                    
negotiating with  the Labor Trades  and Crafts  Union. There                                                                    
had  been several  meetings and  were in  the middle  of the                                                                    
negotiation process.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  asked  how many  employees  were  in  the                                                                    
union.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Holland specified  that DOT  had  approximately 950  to                                                                    
1000 employees in the Labor Trades and Craft Union.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Hoffman   asked   about   the   status   of   the                                                                    
negotiations.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland  stated that the  groups had met twice  and were                                                                    
scheduled  for  a further  meeting.  The  groups were  going                                                                    
through the main points of  the contract. The administration                                                                    
and the union  both had points to offer;  no definitions had                                                                    
been made,  and the contract  was not  ready to go  to union                                                                    
members for ratification.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  thought contracts  were considered  at the                                                                    
end  of the  budget  cycle. He  assumed  the current  budget                                                                    
process would not be informed of the contract negotiation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland  answered in the  affirmative, and  relayed that                                                                    
contracts  were  typically  three  years  in  duration.  New                                                                    
contract negotiations  were usually begun in  the third year                                                                    
of  the contract.  Contract negotiations  sometimes occurred                                                                    
before a  budget was  developed, but  often occurred  in the                                                                    
winter when  the budget for  the next year had  already been                                                                    
developed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  asked  about   the  total  dollar  amount                                                                    
currently requested for CY 19 salaries.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Holland offered to provide the number at a later time.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  asked  about  details  of  a  potential                                                                    
supplemental request.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Luiken  thought  there   had  already  been  a                                                                    
supplemental  request published  with the  governor's budget                                                                    
in December. There  was a request to  supplement a shortfall                                                                    
in AMHS  for $23.7  million. He believed  Co-Chair MacKinnon                                                                    
and  Co-Chair Hoffman  had received  a  letter the  previous                                                                    
October informing of the request.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  asked if $23.7  million was a  limit for                                                                    
the AMHS request.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken  stated that  the $23.7 million  was the                                                                    
amount to  cover the FY 18  budget that was approved  by the                                                                    
legislature the previous summer.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  asked if the  amount was built  into the                                                                    
FY 19 budget.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken  believed that the FY  19 budget request                                                                    
had  roughly  the same  budget  request  as FY  18  original                                                                    
request.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  asked if  the FY  19 budget  would cover                                                                    
all  costs so  there would  be  no need  for a  supplemental                                                                    
budget request for FY 19.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Luiken  stated   that   the  department   had                                                                    
published a  summer schedule, with the  intention of sailing                                                                    
the schedule based on the  requested budget amount. If there                                                                    
was a  budget shortfall or  the system did not  generate the                                                                    
anticipated  revenue in  the  summer,  the department  would                                                                    
adjust the winter schedule to stay within budget.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:15:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Luiken looked at slide 16, "Thank You":                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Contact Information:                                                                                                       
     Marc Luiken                                                                                                                
     Commissioner                                                                                                               
     Marc.Luiken@alaska.gov                                                                                                     
     (907) 465-3900                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Amanda Holland                                                                                                             
     Acting Deputy Commissioner                                                                                                 
     Amanda.Holland@alaska.gov                                                                                                  
     (907) 465-3900                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Transportation is an economic driver                                                                                       
     ?Preserve,    operate,     and    modernize    existing                                                                    
     infrastructure                                                                                                             
     ?Provide transportation services                                                                                           
     ?Federally funded capital improvement projects Impacts                                                                     
     daily quality of life                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Impacts Daily Quality of Life.                                                                                             
     ?Safety                                                                                                                    
     ?Mobility                                                                                                                  
     ?Connectivity                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  commented  that  the  department  did  an                                                                    
outstanding job  in providing broad services  throughout the                                                                    
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Bishop recalled that  in 1968, a former Fairbanks                                                                    
lawmaker introduced legislation to  expand AMHS on the Yukon                                                                    
River. The legislation had not progressed.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche thought that  members could be perceived as                                                                    
harsh.   He  considered   that  DOT   employees  were   like                                                                    
commercial fisherman and worked  in the worst conditions. He                                                                    
emphasized that  the committee was appreciative  of the work                                                                    
of  the  department.  He emphasized  the  need  to  continue                                                                    
downward pressure on the budget.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon asked  Vice-Chair Bishop  to consider  a                                                                    
lane-mile comparison  to examine  labor costs for  AMHS. She                                                                    
was  appreciative  of the  efforts  of  the department.  She                                                                    
thought  much  of  AMHS's  costs  were  driven  by  contract                                                                    
negotiations, and hoped the  department was doing everything                                                                    
it could  to control some  work rules that had  been allowed                                                                    
into contracts that marginally  increased safety but created                                                                    
huge  costs.  She remarked  that  the  negotiating team  was                                                                    
bound to act  for the benefit of those that  used the system                                                                    
as  well  as  those  that   did  not.  She  asked  that  the                                                                    
negotiating team worked to reduce costs.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman discussed  the  agenda  for the  following                                                                    
day.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
012618 DOT FY19 Budget Overview.pdf SFIN 1/29/2018 9:00:00 AM
SB 144